(updated below: including responses from MSNBC executives)
Hillary Clinton's name on MSNBC's Meet the Press homepage (she spoke with Tim Russert yesterday) is currently hyperlinked directly to Clinton's campaign website, where visitors are prominently encouraged to "Drive Hillary's campaign to victory by donating today."
There is no contextual reason for this. The link, for example, is not an allusion to an aspect of her campaign's web presence or fundraising strategies. Rather, it's merely her name in the headline (see "Sen. Hillary Clinton" below, the hyperlink in question, under "Sunday, Jan. 13."):
Specifically, the "Sen. Hillary Clinton" link in the above headline takes you here:
Looking back at appearances of other 2008 presidential candidates, I've found no evidence that any of them has received the same treatment from Meet the Press on MSNBC's website, including her two closest rivals for the nomination, Barack Obama and John Edwards.
So the question remains: Why is MSNBC driving their visitors to contribute to Hillary Clinton's campaign?
Certainly this is a breach of the most basic journalistic ethics or a huge gaffe. Either way, the result is the same.
(Stay tuned...)
UPDATE: Day two. This link remains intake. Keep in mind that according to MSNBC's About section to Advertisers: "On average, msnbc.com delivers well over a billion page views per month to more than 85 million computers." So how many tens or hundreds of thousands of visitors has MSNBC/Meet the Press already driven to Clinton's site, where they are prominently encouraged to donate and support her campaign? Meanwhile, MSNBC is in the middle of appealing a judge's decision yesterday to allow Congressman Kucinich to attend its debate.
How's that for fair and balanced?
UPDATE II: I have since been in contact with Randy Stearns, Deputy Editor, News, for msnbc.com and Jim Ray, a concepts producer at msnbc.com, and am in the process of further inquiring about aspects of this matter. On its face, it does appear that Meet the Press on msnbc.com has given similar treatment to prior candidates on its website. But whether it was exactly the same is difficult to confirm because I am told by Stearns and Ray that those original pages no longer exist. As Mr. Ray explained to me, there is a grid used on the MTP msnbc.com page that swaps out information when updated. Yet while Ray was able to locate what he claims is the original grid (though not the original formatting) for John McCain's appearance, showing his name similarly linked to his campaign website, for some reason, this is the only one to which Ray says he has access. Mr. Stearns sent me the archived links of the candidates' MTP appearances (inexplicably buried on msnbc.com - more on that later), which include a link to each candidate's website (here's an example) but not in the prominent and misleading fashion as the current "Sen. Hillary Clinton" headline link, which causes, as some readers have noted, for visitors to click on her name at the top thinking it will take them to the beginning of the MTP interview rather than her campaign website. In other words, as in the examples of archived candidate interviews sent by Stearns, in which the candidates campaign links are clearly labeled "Candidate site," the link in question, the current Clinton link, is handled in a wholly different manner, both prominent and unlabeled.
Moreover, questions remain, including those pertaining to the necessity of having access to original information (which led me to report on this in the first place and others to come to the same conclusion, i.e., no evidence available at msnbc.com showed otherwise); having clear access to even altered archived information (it's currently buried); and their defense that they have "no control" over what candidates put on their sites (on the surface that might sound logical; contextually, it's not). I sent Mr. Stearns and Mr. Ray follow-up questions and will report back after I receive their replies.
UPDATE III: I sent the following email to Randy Stearns, Deputy Editor, News, for msnbc.com:
Randy, thanks for getting back to me.
I want to post a follow-up/correction, but there are still some questions left unanswered for me.
1) In the comments section, you said, "Mitt Romney, Barak Obama, Ron Paul, John McCain and Mike Huckabee have all been given the same treatment when those candidates appeared on "Meet the Press." As in those cases, the links should not be construed as implying any kind of endorsement of the candidates, nor can "Meet the Press" or msbc.co m control how those candidates organize their sites, (all of which feature fund-raising pitches, of course)."
But if a candidate's campaign is aware it will receive such a link (and it must be), then shouldn't it be obvious that the campaign will make sure its homepage, at least for that time frame, is set up as a de facto donation page? Or, in other cases, that the campaign's regular homepage is heavily weighted for donations, as Clinton's is right now (I'm not sure if her camp altered it for her MTP appearance)?
In either scenario, however, and in this context, isn't MTP/MSNBC.com, for all intents and purposes, wittingly or unwittingly (which is worse?) driving their visitors to de facto donation pages. So your defense claiming to have "no control" over what candidates put on their websites doesn't hold water contextually. If you have no control over what campaigns put up, which I, of course, agree you don't, then wouldn't the more ethical approach be to refrain from linking to their sites in such cases? But you can't have it both ways. You can't link there, claiming ignorance that your visitors will be hit with prominent requests to donate and then turn around and say you have no control over what campaigns put on their websites. Right?
2) By not archiving the original pages as they were, do you understand that your visitors (which included me in this case and others who looked into it) are not given a clear representation as to how MTP on msnbc.com covered past candidate interviews? Shouldn't there be a way to archive the original web representations of those interviews?
3) Also, why are the current web representations of those interviews, in which candidates' websites are linked, buried on your website? (Note: I'm not suggesting it's done maliciously; this is simply a question of usability and allowing your visitors clear access to original information.)
Again, thanks for your time in addressing these questions.
Sincerely,
Brad Jacobson
--
MediaBloodhound
http://mediabloodhound.com
Here is the email response I received from Mr. Stearns:
You make some fair points that we will take into consideration and share w/ our colleagues at Meet the Press.
OK, not the most in-depth response. But if this inquiry actually spurs msnbc.com to provide clearer information to visitors on its Meet the Press page, I welcome the brevity.
I also sent an email to Jim Ray, a concepts producer at msnbc.com, with whom I'd also corresponded in the comments section here. Mr. Ray took a decidedly more loquacious approach (my questions in black; his responses in blue):
Dear Mr. Ray,
I want to post a follow-up/correction, but there are still some questions left unanswered for me.
1) In the comments section you said: "Oh, also, I wanted to say that you bring up an excellent point about the fact that the text is completely lacking in context - I wouldn't necessarily expect a candidate's name to link directly to her campaign site. I'll work on getting that fixed."
As a "concepts producer at msnbc.com, which hosts content for Meet the Press," why wouldn't you "expect a candidate's name to link directly to her campaign site," to such a degree that you said you'd "work on getting that fixed"? Initially, you seemed as surprised as I was about this. As someone who hosts MTP on msnbc.com, isn't that kind of your domain? Or am I totally missing something?
>> Let me clarify exactly what it is that I do at msnbc.com – my title is “editorial concepts producer,” which is sort of a think-tank kind of a role. While I used to be very involved in content and production, I now deal almost solely with conceptual design,particularly as it relates to news. So, while I have access to to our CMS, it’s very much not my job to deal with the day to day production of the site. I brought up the issue with the MTP folks, who are ultimately responsible for the content of that page. I point this out not because I want to absolve myself of any blame, simply by way of explanation.
2) I understand your grid explanation. But by not archiving the original pages as they were, do you understand that your visitors (which included me in this case and others who looked into it) are not given a clear representation as to how MTP on msnbc.com covered past candidate interviews? Even with the grid explanation, shouldn't there be a way to archive the original web representations of those interviews? Also, why are the current web representations of those interviews, in which candidates' websites are linked, buried on your website? (Note: I'm not suggesting it's done maliciously; this is simply a question of usability and allowing your visitors clear access to original information.)
>> I really don’t have a good answer for you. We’re a news organization, the content of our cover and fronts is meant to reflect the news as it happens, not serve as a definitive archive of events. You may disagree with this approach, that’s certainly your right, but we frankly don’t have the resources to maintain an archive of every front every time they change. The point of that space is to act as a promotion to the actual archived content, in the form or written stories, multimedia pieces or video.
3) Finally, on the issue of links to homepages in which donation requests are prominent, you said, "As has been stated by myself and several colleagues at this point, we are linking to the candidate homepage, not directly to a donation page or in any way encouraging readers to donate to candidates. We tend to think that our readers are actually smart enough to figure out that you don't have to click on the 'donate' button just to get information." Prior to that you also note: "Clinton, like every presidential candidate running right now, has a rather prominent 'donate here' image on her homepage, presumably to encourage supporters to donate to her campaign. This doesn't mean that Meet the Press or msnbc.com is encouraging our readers to donate to the Clinton campaign, we're simply linking to her official site. As best I can figure, a link is by no means an endorsement, nor should it be implied as such."
But if a candidate's campaign either requests a link prior to appearing on MTP or is aware that they will receive such a link without requesting it, then shouldn't it be obvious that the campaign will make sure its homepage, at least for that time frame (i.e. see McCain link in your grid example and then go to his current homepage) is set up as a de facto donation page? Or in other cases, it might just be that the campaign's regular homepage is heavily weighted to donate, as Clinton's is right now (I'm not sure if her camp altered it for her MTP appearance).
>> First of all, no candidate has ever requested a link to their homepage that I’m aware of and we are not in the business of granting such requests even if they did. Very simply, we link to candidate sites as a way to provide more information to our readers, in much the same way that we would link to a corporate homepage in a story about that company. As I’ve said, a link is not an endorsement of any kind.
In either scenario, however, and in this context, isn't MTP/MSNBC.com, for all intents and purposes, wittingly or unwittingly (which is worse?) driving their visitors to de facto donation pages. So a defense claiming to have "no control" over what candidates put on their websites doesn't hold water contextually. If you guys have no control over what campaigns put up, which I, of course, agree you don't, then wouldn't the more ethical approach be to not link to their sites in such cases? You can't have it both ways; you can't link there, claiming ignorance that your visitors will be hit with prominent requests to donate and then turn around and say you have no control over what campaigns put on their websites. Right?
>> I think I’ve been clear that I disagree with your basic premise here. Forgive me, Brad, but you seem to be implying some level of collusion that, frankly, has never existed and is borderline conspiratorial. Yes, we do link to every candidate’s homepage at various places on the site – in our candidate comparison matrices, multimedia packages, candidate profiles. Yes, most candidates have donation links prominent on those homepages. Should we simply not link to their official site because a candidate is asking for donations? Is that serving our readers?
Not so long ago, media watchdog bloggers were accusing “big media” of “not getting it” because many mainstream media sites refused to link offsite. You seem to be saying that by linking to the official campaign site that we’re somehow intentionally confusing our readers. Perhaps I’ve just grossly misunderstood your argument, but I fail to see how linking offsite to a page that is clearly not affiliated with MSNBC is an ethical breach. You’ve also set up something of a false dichotomy with your question about wanting to have it both ways – we’re not “claiming ignorance” about the fact that candidates put donations links on their homepages, we’re saying that linking to a candidate’s official site isn’t a tacit endorsement and is by no means an encouragement to donate to a campaign. If we had such powerful means of persuasion, I guarantee you that our advertisements would be far more lucrative.
Furthermore, your original post headline continues to be grossly misleading. No page on msnbc.com encourages any reader to donate to any campaign. When you land on the campaign website, you still have to click through to yet another page to donate, something that we are unable to force our users to do (I hear that Microsoft is working on that technology though [joke. Ha.]). Here’s a hypothetical for you: let’s say a story on msnbc.com linked to a weblog about political media bloggers and on that page was a link to, oh, I don’t know, mediabloodhounds.com and on that page is a button that says “this is a one-man operation that could really use your donations” with a “make a donation” button. Would you consider that link to be an endorsement from msnbc.com? Would you run the headline “MSNBC driving visitors to donate to media watchdog group” ? I should hope not.
At this point, I’m afraid that we’re going to have to agree to disagree about this particular matter. You clearly feel that we have crossed some ethical line in the sand, my colleagues and I clearly disagree. I appreciate your attention to this matter and would really appreciate that you clarify to your readers that we are not in the business of supporting particular political candidates or encouraging our readers to donate to political campaigns. Also, I’d really appreciate if you’d turn your watchful eye to other media organizations that have the temerity to link to official candidate homepages, such as the nation’s paper of record, here: http://politics.nytimes.com/election-guide/2008/candidates/index.html
Best,
Jim
Yes, I guess Mr. Ray and I will have to agree to disagree, though not because he has sufficiently addressed my concerns. Mr. Stearns, in one sentence, did a better job of that. Ray's assertion that "You clearly feel we have crossed some ethical line in the sand, my colleagues and I clearly disagree" not only misrepresents what contextually is irksome about the Clinton link (and any others like it in the past that may have existed at one time), but also, in light of Stearns' response, Ray's colleagues don't necessarily "clearly disagree." In fact, to reiterate, Stearns said, "You make some fair points that we will take into consideration and share w/our colleagues at Meet the Press."
Stearns appears to grasp what I'm getting at - not that I'm either claiming MSNBC is specifically telling its visitors in clear directional links and text to "Donate to Hillary" or to another candidate, or that I'm asserting no candidate's link should appear on MSNBC. That's just silly. Rather, as is, in the context of the information provided - an unlabeled hyperlinked candidate's name in a Meet the Press headline - is misleadingly driving visitors to a de facto donation page. That is inarguable.
You say, "Very simply, we link to candidate sites as a way to provide more information to our readers, in much the same way that we would link to a corporate homepage in a story about that company." But my point is that the link in question - I'm not referring to those in msnbc.com's "candidate comparison, matrices, multimedia packages, candidate profiles," etc. - is not linked in a way a corporate homepage might be in a story about a company. "Sen. Hillary Clinton," the link in question, is part of the headline. It is not text in the story (or, in this case, interview) or labeled as her campaign site. A headline implies the story at hand. This is why at least some visitors clicked on that thinking it would anchor link them down to the beginning of the interview. It is misleading. And I am calling out the result of misleading your visitors in this particular case. Whether it was intentional or not - what Mr. Ray can't seem to get beyond in his somewhat overly defensive stance - is really beside the point. Whatever the case, the result is the same.
Stearns also seems to understand that this whole matter, the inspiration for my inquiry, also comes down to the accessibility of information. If I, and others, were able to access on msnbc.com examples of prior candidates being treated in the exact same way, I would've at least been able to confirm that other candidates were linked as such in the past. Though I would've still maintained that such linking - in this particular context - is misleading, it wouldn't have appeared as inequitable as it initially did.
MSNBC Driving Traffic to Clinton Campaign Donations
Posted by: Brad Jacobson | January 14, 2008 at 06:05 PM
I am a viewer of MSNBC but if this is true then we will boycott MSNBC. THis is WRONG!
Posted by: Manijeh | January 14, 2008 at 08:53 PM
I can't believe anyone is surprised by this!
Posted by: Woody Peacock | January 14, 2008 at 09:10 PM
Will Media Matters report on this? Probably not. They are in love with Hillary.
Posted by: KISSman | January 14, 2008 at 09:38 PM
Hillary needs to be stopped for sake of ruining the democrats chances this election year; it's the Dems' year but if Hillary is nominated she will drive independents and moderates away to the right. But I checked the link and it just takes you to Hillary's homepage - which just happens to have a big contribute request. If it only said something about contributing near the bottom then you guys wouldn't be writing this.
Posted by: Tyler | January 14, 2008 at 09:57 PM
Tyler, I assure you I would've written about this regardless of what was on Hillary's homepage. And I would have a problem with this if Obama, Edwards or any of the GOP candidates had the same MSNBC link jumping to their homepages. It just happens to go to Clinton's. Thanks for your comment.
Posted by: Brad Jacobson | January 14, 2008 at 10:13 PM
Mike Gravel has done more for this country then ANY of the candidates including Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. I suggest you vote for one of the 3 if you want change.
If not, expect hell on earth. Our next president could easily be the next dictator IF it's one of the top tier candidates.
Wake up Sheeple.
Posted by: Jennifer | January 14, 2008 at 11:33 PM
Ron paul '08!
Posted by: David | January 15, 2008 at 09:12 AM
Let all the poisons in the mud hatch out.
And then...THE REVOLUTION!
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Posted by: greenpagan | January 15, 2008 at 10:42 AM
This does not look good for MSNBC.
Posted by: Ron Mwangaguhunga | January 15, 2008 at 03:01 PM
As Obama supporter, I think this reporter missed the point.The page showing is Hillary homepage. NOT her fundraising page, even thus it has a fundraising button on it.but,that's her homepgae forgod sake. I'm not a big fan for Hillary but,this repporting is wrong. Every news outlet out there always linked the sources link on there page. In this case I believe it's what happened..
Posted by: Pete | January 15, 2008 at 04:47 PM
Hi there, my name is Jim Ray, I'm a concepts producer at msnbc.com, which hosts content for Meet the Press. I found your link via a post on our sister site, Newsvine.
I'm hoping I can clear up some confusion: as you noted, the link on the Meet the Press front actually points to Hillary Clinton's official website, hillaryclinton.com. Clinton, like every presidential candidate running right now, has a rather prominent "donate here" image on her homepage, presumably to encourage supporters to donate to her campaign. This doesn't mean that Meet the Press or msnbc.com is encouraging our readers to donate to the Clinton campaign, we're simply linking to her official site. As best I can figure, a link is by no means an endorsement, nor should it be implied as such. I'm working on figuring out why the text was linked as such, what our policy is for linking to official campaigns, and whether this has been a pattern with other candidates. It should be obvious, though, that msnbc.com has no more control over what the Clinton campaign posts on their homepage than what MediaBloodhound posts on theirs.
As an aside, I sure hope this post wasn't an intentional attempt to sensationalize a non-story. For one, the screenshots used seem to take a bit of creative licensing with the crops. Political impartiality is something we all take very seriously and I would hope that this is a simple misunderstanding, not a hamhanded attempt to gin up controversy or pageviews.
Jim
[email protected]
Posted by: Jim Ray | January 15, 2008 at 04:59 PM
Oh, also, I wanted to say that you bring up an excellent point about the fact that the text is completely lacking in context - I wouldn't necessarily expect a candidate's name to link directly to her campaign site. I'll work on getting that fixed.
Posted by: Jim Ray | January 15, 2008 at 05:04 PM
Sure enough... I just went there and when you click on the link (You think you are going to go to the story itself) it takes you directly to her donation page. Fair and Unbiased my behind!
Posted by: Victoria | January 15, 2008 at 05:50 PM
The link to Senator Clinton’s campaign Web site is not unprecedented. In fact, "Meet the Press" has provided such links to each of the candidates who have been guests on the program over the past several months. Mitt Romney, Barak Obama, Ron Paul, John McCain and Mike Huckabee have all been given the same treatment when those candidates appeared on "Meet the Press." As in those cases, the links should not be construed as implying any kind of endorsement of the candidates, nor can "Meet the Press" or msnbc.com control how those candidates organize their sites, (all of which feature fund-raising pitches, of course).
Posted by: Randy Stearns | January 15, 2008 at 06:03 PM
Hi Jim Ray @ MSNBC.com
Thanks for checking into this. I am sure interested in what the official word is from MSNBC on your policy concerning links to the donation page of Hillary Clinton's campaign.
Edmund Dante Hamilton
Posted by: Edmund Dante Hamilton | January 15, 2008 at 06:45 PM
Mr. Stearns, if you can provide evidence that, as you say, each candidate was treated exactly the same as Sen. Clinton on your website, I will be glad to issue a correction. I and others have looked back at those interviews on your site and have found no evidence to support that was the case. Even your Concepts Producer, Jim Ray, who commented here as well, finds it unusual that Sen. Clinton's name was linked, without any context, in the headline. I've sent you a more in-depth email. Thanks for your help in verifying.
Posted by: Brad Jacobson | January 15, 2008 at 07:50 PM
Mr. Ray, thanks for the info and for looking into this.
I can assure you this wasn't "an intentional attempt to sensationalize a non-story." That's not what I do here. Regarding your comment about the screenshots used seeming to "take a bit of creative licensing with the crops," I'm not sure what you're implying. If you're insinuating the screenshots I took changed the reality of what I was reporting, that's absolutely not the case.
I'm not sure how to respond to your next statement: "Political impartiality is something we all take very seriously and I would hope that this is a simple misunderstanding, not a hamhanded attempt to gin up controversy or pageviews." I guess I'll just say that, no, this wasn't an attempt to "gin up controversy." Though, I have to say, Jim, what does sound hamhanded is an executive at MSNBC lecturing me about how "Political impartiality is something we [MSNBC] all take very seriously" while your network is simultaneously appealing a judge's decision to allow one of the 2008 Democratic candidates to appear in your next debate.
Posted by: Brad Jacobson | January 15, 2008 at 08:23 PM
Brad, I'm not going to further debate you on this one. And I'm certainly not going to try to justify the actions and decisions of our corporate parents, a story that we reported on the cover of our own website. I've presented the facts as best I can, I'm sorry they don't square with your preconceptions.
As for proof that we've treated other candidates the same way, I can offer a bit of that, but it's going to require some technical explanation about how our content management system works.
That big area at the top of the front page of sections is called a Grid internally, it's a component that allows us to manage the photos and text in that area of the page. Often times, we'll create a new grid layout for news that doesn't change much, like the weekly booking schedule of Meet the Press. As it so happens, the grid from the week that John McCain was on the show still exists, you can see an unformatted version here:
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/22475064/
(Apologies, you don't appear to allow hyperlinks in your comments)
Now, the CSS that formats this grid isn't available, but you can see that "Sen. John McCain" is linked to McCain's official campaign homepage, which has a big, bright red "Donate" button. Unfortunately, I don't have access to any of the other Grid components that were used for other candidates' appearances on Meet the Press but I've been assured by my colleagues that this is standard procedure.
Furthermore, you still seem to be implying that our links point readers directly to a Clinton campaign donation page, which is patently false. As has been stated by myself and several colleagues at this point, we are linking to the candidate homepage, not directly to a donation page or in any way encouraging readers to donate to candidates. We tend to think that our readers are actually smart enough to figure out that you don't have to click on the "donate" button just to get information.
Posted by: Jim Ray | January 15, 2008 at 08:59 PM
Jim, I will be addressing your last comment and others in an update posted later today (hopefully) once I have all the information I'm still searching out. For now, I'll just say that in response to "We tend to think that our readers are actually smart enough to figure out that you don't have to click on the "donate" button just to get information," I tend to think my readers are smart enough to figure out it's not that simple.
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